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So, I accidentally made a movie. It’s called The Migration, and if you’re interested it’s available right now. (Check it out)
I didn’t.
This whole thing started as a membership project – we set out to move my courses and content from Customerhub to AccessAlly.
I didn’t know what this migration process would require, so I decided we should document it step-by-step. I figured there were other people would would benefit from peeking over our shoulder.
Things just kind of snowballed from there.
Let me be clear – I use AccessAlly in my business, and I dig it. So, I’ve signed up as an affiliate partner. This means I earn a commission for any sales I refer. I’m sharing my first hand experience in case it helps you, but if you decide AccessAlly is a fit I’d love it if you used my links to get started. Thanks!
Why AccessAlly?
I wish I could say that I made a comprehensive list of pros and cons, that I thoroughly investigated my options, weighed what was important to me, and made a strategic decision.
But I didn’t, and the truth is actually kinda embarrassing.
I chose AccessAlly because my friend Jamie recommended it, and I trust her.
Now, it’s turned out to be a really good fit, and I feel comfortable defending the decision (see the features section below) – but at the time I made the choice, it was solely because of Jamie’s endorsement.
There are an infinite number of small business tools out there, and you could spend months testing and researching – but sometimes the easiest path forward is by leaning on the people who have earned your trust.
Sidenote: I put together this list of Tools I use – feel free to grab it and see if anything in there helps you. (Get the Ebook)
What is AccessAlly?
I guess at this point I should clarify WHAT AccessAlly is, and what it does for me.
At it’s core it’s a membership plugin for WordPress.
It controls who can view which pages on my site, and it connects with Infusionsoft (and a handful of other CRM softwares) to make sure that people are only presented with the things to which they have access.
If you’d like to section off pages of your site so that people have to log-in to view them, then AccessAlly might be a good fit for you.
Or, if you sell courses and you want to automatically unlock content for customers – well, AccessAlly can do that too.
I use AccessAlly to deliver free and paid content – and because it’s inside a login area you can also measure consumption and engagement.
(Here’s one of those cheeky AccessAlly affiliate links.)
Why should we listen to you, Greg?
Fair question.
I’m a normal guy running a business. And I was using CustomerHub, and it was working just fine.
But that’s the issue, it was “fine”. And so I stuck with it for three years, not because I liked it, but because it wasn’t broken.
And because change feels…hard.
Sound familiar?
So it took a catalyst for me to change. I knew there were fancier and more robust solutions out there – I just had other priorities.
And unless something is broken, it’s easy to focus elsewhere. Anyway, more on that in the documentary.
Features I Like
Honestly, my path into AccessAlly was a little unconventional.
You have to remember, I wasn’t just building a membership site – I was also creating a piece of content about building a membership site.
And for the sake of the content, I tried to keep myself in the dark – so that I could experience everything “for the first time” on camera.
It worked…sort of.
On the one hand, I was definitely surprised when I finally got to see the tool in action. But on the other hand I think I made things harder for myself because I didn’t do my homework in preparation for the project.
Anyway – I really like how easy it is to set up permissions on a page-by-page basis. I use Infusionsoft so I can designate certain pages that people can view if they do or don’t have specific tags on their contact record. Additionally, I can set up redirects so that if someone tries to view a page they don’t have access to they wind up somewhere else explaining what just happened.
But AccessAlly also offers ProgressAlly, which has a set of eLearning features I’m digging.
When I was using CustomerHub I didn’t have any real method for tracking progress, and so one of the first things we did when getting onto AccessAlly was add checkboxes for each module so that my customers can track their progress.
Another ProgressAlly feature I implemented was the Private Notes section. This gives customers the ability to jot down notes during a course – this is perfect for action items and making to-do lists without having to leave the course or video they’re on.
I’m a new AccessAlly user, so my focus has pretty much been on getting things moved over.
But I’m live on the new membership area now and I’m starting to get excited by all the different options this opens up. I’m not using them yet, but I’m planning to layer in quizzes to help measure retention, and gamify the process of unlocking certain bonus content.
What Surprised Me
Yeah, so, it’s turning out to be a really good fit for me, and I’m a proud AccessAlly partner – but it wasn’t really love at first sight (more like “love at first site”, am I right?).
When we first moved my membership content over and I got to see it I was…underwhelmed.
Everything kinda looked the same. And initially I put that on AccessAlly.
I assumed that because I had seen good looking sites built on AccessAlly, that AccessAlly made your site look good.
And that’s simply not the case.
Like any WordPress site, the way it looks is controlled by the theme. And once I figured that out it helped me realign my expectations, and things started to click.
AccessAlly controls what pages people can see. It also offers a set of shortcodes you can use to hide and reveal content within a page, show course icons, and display subscriptions, credit cards, and user data.
But neither really affect the actual look and feel of your site, those things are handled with your theme, or through little snippets of CSS code here and there.
Now that I know that, it’s all good. But I could have avoided some frustration if I had taken the time to understand this at the onset.
Competition
There is no shortage of options if you’re looking to build a membership site. So two questions to ask yourself early on are:
1. What will integrate with my website? And does it need to?
2. What will integrate with my CRM?
In my case my website is on WordPress, and Infusionsoft is my CRM – and from what I can tell there are three clear leaders when it comes to membership tools that integrate with both of those, AccessAlly, Memberium, and iMember360.
As I said in the “Why AccessAlly” section above, I chose AccessAlly largely based on Jamie’s recommendation – but I want to be clear that I have a very positive impression of both of the other tools as well. I’ve seen very high quality membership sites built on Memberium and on iMember360, and both platforms have proud and loyal users.
It feels like a cop out – but I simply don’t feel qualified to give a blow-by-blow comparative analysis because I simply haven’t spent enough time with all three options. However, if you’re looking for guidance there are plenty of capable Infusionsoft Partners who specialize in building membership sites. (Let me know if you need a recommendation.)
Kajabi
The reason I asked “does it need to?” on the question above, is because not all membership platforms sit on your website – there are several options that are self-hosted, meaning that they exist as stand-alone platforms, and aren’t dependent on you having a different site built.
One popular platform like this is Kajabi – I’ve used Kajabi for a few projects now and found that while it’s not as flexible as AccessAlly, it’s fast to use, and easy to learn. You can check out more on Kajabi here.
CustomerHub
Finally, Customerhub is another self-hosted membership solution. It’s what I used for the first few years of Monkeypod, because it used to be owned by Infusionsoft and thus was a tool that I knew pretty well. So it was the obvious choice when I was getting started and needed somewhere to host my Infusionsoft training courses.
I should point out that at least part of why I left CustomerHub was that it hadn’t evolved in several years – just last week Infusionsoft announced that CustomerHub had been reacquired by the original team that founded it. I’ve already transitioned onto AccessAlly, but I’m hopeful that this may mean that CustomerHub soon has some new life. (Read More)
What do I do next?
Well, if you need a membership site, and you’re ready to get started – then check out AccessAlly.
It’s a powerful tool, and while I’ve only been using it for a few months I am more than happy to endorse it. Beyond the plugin itself, I’ve been just as impressed with the team and community behind the tool.
Now, if you’re curious about what the process of building a membership site actually takes, well, then check out The Migration. I created it specifically for people like you:
Well would ya look at that, I’m a case study now – turns out that AccessAlly put together their own little write up about me. Check it out here.
Great overview and high-level reasoning for your move.
I apreciated that you acknowledge that there are other good options. The most important thing is committing and then really digging in and understanding a tools ins-and-outs. There are a lot of details and options.
100% agree. I think I could have been perfectly happy with Memberium or iMember360; but Jamie was the catalyst that got me to finally start this project, and so I let her guide it. I’m really pleased with how AccessAlly has worked for me, and I talk about this a bit in the documentary, but even the things that I was frustrated with were more my own “misunderstandings” than they were shortcomings of the platform.
I’ve had my eye on AccessAlly and Memberium for at least a couple years now. I plan to build out some courses to teach people metalworking. Thanks for the rec Greg and great job on the video.
Thanks Kelly – let me know if there is anything I can do to make your process easier. 🙂
Great sharing Greg as usual.
It would be great if you added a comment why you narrowed your choice down to those that integrated within WordPress, and not those that don’t. I assume Teachable, Kajabi and others fall into the latter category.
Hey Jamie, my website was on WordPress, and at the time I chose a solution I believed it would be integrating with my existing site (I eventually moved it onto it’s own site/domain). I didn’t consider teachable or kajabi because I knew that the WordPress options (AccessAlly, iMember360, Memberium) were all viable, and I’d have a headstart on the learning curve because I was already familiar with WordPress and Divi (my theme).
I really enjoyed you being interviewed by Kelsey on his Get Automated podcast, about your migration. I have a “beginners” strategy question which is “Why was having a WordPress-plugin-based system important to you, versus the non-WP choices?”
That all said, I have not yet watched your documentary and it is obviously a great endorsement for AccessAlly which I’ll now check out.
No doubt your process would have been easier if you were building a brand new platform on AccessAlly, and I’d guess that you’d be a great trusted teacher of that process.
Thanks Jamie! Appreciate you taking the time to listen to the podcast. 🙂
I think you could probably build a perfectly fine membership site using a non-WP option, but because I’m familiar with the WordPress environment, and I already have a level of comfort with my Divi theme, I thought by choosing a WordPress plugin membership option I’d be reducing the amount of change happening simultaneously. I figured since AccessAlly would have a learning curve, but that a fair amount of the process would be familiar because of the overlap with WordPress (my CMS) and Divi (my theme).
Thanks for sharing your journey. It’s very relevant as I’m in the research and planning phase of moving away from Thinkific.
Like you and CustomerHub, our experience with Thinkific has been “OK”, but nothing more.
To me, Priority 1 is a system with functionality and flexibility of design. Priority 2 is harnessing SEO.
With a fully online-based business, my challenge is whether to go with an all-in-one solution (Kajabi stands out head and shoulders here) or whether to self-host and try to integrate multiple 3rd party solutions.
I’m leaning toward AccessAlly simply because of:
a) functionality seems on-par with Kajabi at a third of the cost
b) the SEO benefits of keeping members coming back to your site repeatedly. With so much pre-existing work already done in this area, the idea of hosting our course and membership on a separate domain
b) ability to modify most features. Again, this comes with a high price tag if you’re looking at Kajabi (especially to modify the design of landing pages etc.)
It still means I need a 3rd party CRM and an on-demand webinar solution, but to me, the “ends justify the means”.
Thanks for reading John. AccessAlly has been great – I totally support that decision!
I use Demio as my evergreen webinar solution, here’s a blog post on the LIVE webinar process through Demio, and here’s an actual sample evergreen webinar I set up (try it out).
As far as the CRM goes, I use and normally recommend Infusionsoft – but depending on your needs, it might be overkill. Here’s a great review my friend Brett put together that does a good job of walking you through some important things to consider.
THANK YOU! I decided to switch to AccessAlly and move my myriad of memberships, free training, new course and was a little stalled because I don’t know what I don’t know and a LOT of thinking goes into something like this, especially a DIY. Then I came across your videos and omg, what a lifesaver!
Awesome! So glad to hear it Lisa. Thanks for taking the time to let me know. 🙂
Woohoo Lisa! So glad you found Greg’s series helpful, I’m so glad he decided to record the whole process… a migration can be intense, so seeing someone else go through it first really helps pave the way. 🙂
So happy to have you switching over to AccessAlly too – don’t hesitate to reach out if you need help from us and our crew!